1 February 2006
When I saw the commentary [on "Murika," 1 February 2006] I had to write. First off, it is one of the funniest in a while. That Mr. Kreider has failed to see this is either a product of Lagavulin-induced malaise or a general loss of funny bone. Second, if Mr. Kreider's affinity for Lagavulin threatens his income as it does mine, and I'm assuming it does, despite the brilliance and universal popularity of his cartoons, I would suggest he track down something called "Islay Mist" which is a blend of Islay scotches, predominantly Laphroig. The point is, it is about $26 here in Missouri and you can put ice on it without feeling like a schmuck.
1 February 2006
I'm a new, but avid reader of your comic living in Toronto, Ontario. I don't think you're much of a TV watcher, but nevertheless I wanted to recommend an HBO show called The Wire. It's set in Baltimore (your home town, according to your site), and it depicts (fictionally) the war on drugs through the perspective of both the police and the traffickers. However, the last season of the show used the drug war as a critical allegory of the war in Iraq, or more specifically the philosophy of the US government in dealing with the conflict.
In any case, keep up the great work.
A Canadian fan, - Pat
3 February 2006
[regarding "Murika"]: agreed not really funny but having read for a few months i know that's not always what you're really most going for. this was a really good passionate one, as was your artist's statement.
i do have a couple minor points on the way it's displayed on the website. at least on internet explorer, for me it displays slightly too wide and I have to scroll over. on firefox it's a bit better. but i don't think it should be so, you should be able to code it so that it fits the window?
also, why not have the artist's statement automatically be there below, what is the point of an extra click which reloads the cartoon + statement?
4 February 2006
I am dropping a completely unnecessary line to y'all about Mr Kreider's question of why in the book of Genesis nobody seems surprised that animals talk. A reasonable if somewhat fruity interpretation is that the communication with animals signified Adam and Eve's closeness to the rest of the world. We lost this closeness with our ability to rationalize, thus allowing us the wonder of processed cheese snacks but also the horror of being awake until 4 AM with the clinical depression. Back when we were animals, we could talk to the other animals. But we're not any more.
Of course, it's also a goddamn talking snake in a goddamn myth, animals always fucking talk in myths. Christ.
Keep up the good work! I still wish I could letter half as well as you do.
6 February 2006
I was made aware of your work by a Canadian friend and now, checking out the new cartoon is, if not the high point of my week, at least something to look forward to in this vale of tears.
I recently told my girlfriend that 'Babies are Assholes' and she gave me such a look of disgust.
Anyway, I hope you'll soon have something to say on the recent extraordinary goings-on in Europe and the Middle East, sparked by a Danish newspaper cartoon. Surely this hits home for you? It's all getting me down and I could do with a laugh.
6 February 2006
Please relay to Mr. Krieder that I was wiggled with joy to find a fresh new shocking four panel on thepaincomics.com on a lowly monday and it is a howler to boot. Mr. Krieder either loosed some creative cogs during his recent hallucinogenic experience or the Magic Kingdom did his body good. In either event, we here in the woods are glad to count him and his work among that of Our Side.
Additionally, if this Cartoon Massacre that is infecting the global unconsciousness reaches Chesapeake Bay alert Mr. Krieder that Indiana is almost a world away from such folly and he is welcome to take refuge in our backhouse.
6 February 2006
Loved this week's edition of my favourite weekly internet destination. I have an especially nerdy softspot for your superhero stuff. "Chuckles" was inspired. Anyway, on with the hybrids!
A few years ago (in my early university days) I participated in an extremely high-paying sperm motility experiment, the hilarity of which has been a bottomless source of comedy material ever since. In the document which needed to be signed in order for me to participate (it wasn't called a 'release', but it should have been), there was a clause which stated, "I understand that in the experiment, ova from hamsters will be used to test the motility of human sperm. Further, I understand that no hamster/human hybrid is possible." I signed off. Because really, when you're getting 90 bucks a shot every second day for two weeks, who cares where they put it? I did tuck that little clause away though, just in case there were villainous superpower ramifications later on.
Then when G.W. said that thing in the State of the Union, it took me back. I wondered if maybe he misunderstood the release that he'd signed.
And really, if you're making a hybrid, it's not cloning is it? If you create and enslave an army of identical hybrids, then it's cloning.
Thanks for the weekly laughs. I own your books. Honestly.
MIKE "30% hamster on my mother's side" W.
6 February 2006
I would love to hear Tim's thoughts on the whole Danish cartoon debacle.
Jason, Santa Clara, California
PS Since I can't resist - my favorites: "Don't Mind Grandpa", "The Sorrows of Pluto", "The Grass is Always Greener..." (Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow Asshole), "Operation: Head of State" (best "oh God I'm fucked" frown ever, but what is that in the thought balloon?) and everything else that ridicules/exposes the current administration. Oh, and "Sic Semper Fuckheads" makes me proud to be an American. Really.
9 February 2006
OK, please forward this to Tim, thanks.
I haven't laughed so hard at one of your cartoons in ages! The image of Spidey tartly webzapping Cheney (who will no doubt get his good friend Mr Jameson to print a nasty article in the Daily Bugle in retaliation) left me laughing aloud. Then I saw the comments.... though you kind of screwed up the link to the comments, I was at last able to get it and get that lovely line about the Korean Man Bats. You think we can work that into a future cartoon? (Assuming you survive the legions of bugeyed, burnoosed fanatics that will surely gather once you've insulted Islam, of course...)
10 February 2006
I just wanted to tell you that you're doing a great work. I read the Why Do They Kill Me? Collection and I really liked it. I live in Greece (by the way, I offer you my apologies on behalf of that moron who stabbed you. i guess assholes are international) and politicians here stink as well. Keep up the good work.
13 February 2006
Agreed. Liz Phair is still among the five hottest pieces of ass on the planet.
14 February 2006
Is there an RSS feed for The Pain?
16 February 2006
How's about this?
We all know how history records Hitler's death: alone and defeated, he shoots himself in the head.
Well, wouldn't it be funny if he ACTUALLY died from the shock of receiving the mother of all GAS bills??
Y'know it would kinda perfectly encapsulate a bittersweet irony even The Final Solution has a price etc
Just an idea.
16 February 2006
[RE: "Learn German While Drunk"]:
Quite the laugh. Back in the 80's a friend called me over to listen to a new 12" he'd picked up. Some chick named Nina. We fired up a coupla joints and eventually gave it a spin. About halfway into it we both looked at each other like, we CANNOT be THIS stoned already. Turned out we were listening to the flipside recorded in German. 99 Luft Ballons still gives me a chuckle when it hits the airwaves. Saving an otherwise rather pathetic episode of musical history with at least the memory of a mighty-fine buzz.
Anyway, nice work, keep it up.
Bethesda (but formerly of Ednor Gardens)
16 February 2006
[RE: "I am entering. And I intend to win."]:
This may be among the best ideas you've ever had.
I say that, of course, as the guy who's not going to be attracting the attention of the Anti-Defamation League and the State Department. A Tim Kreider Holocaust cartoon sounds like the sort of thing that could rapidly get uglier than Waminals. (Are you really getting sued over that? That seems crazy to me.) On the other hand, maybe it's time to reach out to new markets? At any rate, I'll be watching with interest.
You might be interested in knowing (if you don't already) that some Israelis have responded with their *own* anti-Semitic cartoon contest. http://www.boomka.org/ has, in true Israeli spirit, vowed not to allow the feelthy Iranians to beat them on their own turf.
16 February 22006
Dear Ms Hautpanz,
I was so pleased to encounter someone so like-minded as "The Pain" artist. As an artist, it's been cracking me up to read about the "Cartoon Riots". Who could have imagined such nobility and influence bestowed upon our humble art-form?
I like your blatant Mohammedan-baiting. I went for a subtler, more dignified approach. Please find my ill-conceived and poorly executed attachment. In the name of cultural sensitivity, I tried to approach the sacred subject with reverence. Seeing as this could be reprinted all over the world, I did my very best work. I hope you like it.
[drawing attached, titled, "The Prophet Takes a Crap."]
17 February 2006
Having just moved to Baltimore and discovered your cartoon, I wanted to take a moment and thank you for bringing a weekly smile to my face.
22 February 2006
Well Mr. Kreider I've loved reading your comic from the day I found it in computer presn [sic], damn people kept thinking I was insane laughing in the middle of class. These last 2 or 3 if you count the valentines day thing were brilliant. Your view on religion always has me dancing as you insult the ignorant faithful okay some of them are not that bad but if they tell me their religion they are. I'm wasting my time here but the devils game show is awesome. If you actually see this I have 1 request, 1 send me a free book of the pain or post more comics online, I would like to say I am not a anti christ crazy person...ok?....................muhahhahaahahaaaa
for the fries
P.S. hell what was so damn bad about Regan seems like a normal upstanding politician.
22 February 2006
Just wanted to say I think Mr. Kreider's (your?) art is hilarious and brilliant!! The finest I have ever seen!! I totally stumbled upon it by accident. I am a big fan of Ivan Brunetti, Johnny Ryan, Kieron Dwyer, Jim Woodring (others as well) but I think you surpass them. I go back to your work again and again. It is so sharp and intelligent and so dead-on. Just the best I have seen. I love your art and I love your politics. Keep on drawing and I will keep on buying! Any chance of t-shirts or posters?
All the best,
22 February 2006
I agree with Boyd - you (Tim) pussied out.
Perhaps Boyd and I "believe that nothing is off-limits to question, opposition, or ridicule." I do not believe you do.
Please, please, please try again. I have faith that you can do better!
22 February 2006
Greatly enjoyed the Holocaust cartoon. Yes, I thought you trod the "fine line" rather well. Especially liked the touch of having the "1,000,000 dead in Negrobia" story on the back page of the newspaper, utterly ignored.
Finally: there's a great story in this month's Vanity Fair (The Oscars issue) which engrossingly studies The Shitkicker-In-Chief's military fantasies, which, of course, best exemplified themselves in the now-utterly cringe-making 'Mission Accomplished' appearance on that warship in 2003 Ð shortly before the first troop deaths. Do you know there's even high-quality action figures of the motherfucker, posing 'heroically' in his flight suit??? Jesus, it beggars belief much like the day's news that the Bush administration sanctioned the sale of your largest ports operations to an ARAB company. Unbelievable. Now, obviously, it's wrong to paint a whole race with the rapacious crimes of a minority, but, come on, after five years of wide-eyed Bushie fear-mongering about the obvious, omnipresent terrorist intentions of Islamic nations, to then give an Arab company control of an industrial area that could quite, quite conceivably be subverted to allow a terrorist threat hidden entry to American soil and it's insane to think otherwise is an utterly damning reminder that, when it comes down it, the Bush administration is all about the money. Shocking.
23 February 2006
When I heard about the Iranian contest, I hoped you would enter. Great job. Now if someone can just talk Drew Friedman into taking a crack at the Israeli one.
FWIW, I first ran into the thinking-about-the-holocaust-to-prevent-ejacualation bit in a porn comic that Howard Chaykin wrote in the 80s. It'd be interesting to see how far back it goes. Paul Krassner maybe? These mysteries are lost to the sands of time and bad, bad taste.
23 February 2006
I had come across your cartoon on the Holocaust, and I must say that it was a well-done statement. I had read your statement about the cartoon, which was well said and well pointed out, except for a few things.
Before I state any what's wrong with your statement, I would like to say what's right (well what's right in my opinion). First, the idea of "never again!" being associated with only that tragedy should not strike the industrialized (or as you put it, white) societies, is very true, the examples are numerous from the situation of Rwanda to Cambodia (and etc...). Also it is true with the statement that there are moments in which the Arab media singles out Jews for the actions of Zionist (which is entirely unfair, it is like equating Muslims to the actions of the idiots of Al Qaeda).
Nonetheless, here is where I disagree with you, first of all the people of Iran are not ARABS, they are Iranian, they are Persian, to blame Arabs for the actions of an Iranian newspaper is like blaming the French for the actions of Hungary.
Finally, we Arabs have an excellent sense of humour, which I may say, is not entirely noticed by the Americans, we do make fun of our religion, we do make fun of our situation, in fact if you read up more about our society and our culture, we are a vibrant race, cultured and extraordinarily funny in many cases...the issue of the Danish cartoons, is not entirely on the depiction of the prophet (which although is an issue, is not what caused outrage) it is how the Prophet was depicted (come on, a bomb for a turban, or evil eyes, are not looking for a laugh), and it is the excuse of freedom of speech to justify the depiction, especially when the West (and i mean both Europe and America ) are not completely true to the issue of freedom of speech. Look at the case of the continual attacks and censorship of Al-Jazeera because its a "medium for terrorists", or the censorship of anti-war personal for being anti-American, and etc etc etc.
See the point here is that every society has freedom of speech but it is relative to the limitations associated by the society itself. One can not generalize and say a group of people lack the vaules of liberity, or the understanding of freedom of speech, it all relates to the context of the current situation and obstacles faced by the society at the time. Saying Islam, as a unit is against freedom of speech is silly, the historical example of the Muslim empire in India during the European dark ages (the time of the Inquisition, and witch burning) was a model of freedom of speech in which the court had members of all religions (including atheists) debating the existence of God...
anyways, just thought of adding my two cents,
hope you win the contest
24 February 2006
Hello Mr. Tim Kreider,
Thank you very much for your quick reply. Your emails were extremely wonderful.
I must note though just so you know, I didn't mean to be aggressive in any manner (if in any subtle way).
The ultimate reason why I was moved to write to you is that I do enjoy your work, and when I read your comments about your drawing it came across as a well rounded, thoughtful, and (what is lacking in the world these days) intelligent outlook on such a situation. The mistakes I pointed out, are mistakes I have seen in a multitude of areas (whether in the media, discussion forums, university classes, and etc).
As an Arab, and worse still, as a young male muslim (i only point out my religious beliefs, in order to paint a clearer picture of my perspective) Syrian (you know, the sidekicks of the Axis of Evil), life is hard at the moment. For me, with my strong passion for history and politics, I only seek to ensure that people understand who my people are, which I'm sure you're not surprised to know, are people like anyone else whether they be Americans, Icelandians, Cubans, etc.
I was moved to point out what you said were wrong because I felt like your message was well said, and should be said more often in public, yet its witty sharpness was blunted by these mistakes...that is of course my opinion.
In reply to your email, I believe that the war in seriousness and stupidity will only be solved through the use of dialogue. Your reply and our "conversation" affirms my belief and I thank you for it. To quote one of my favorite writers, Alan Moore, "War is but the lack of imagination" ...ok sure that was not the identical quote but you get the meaning.
Anyways, excuse my silly ramblings, I do wish you well, and hopefully in some future we can all embrace each other as (what i think we should) family. Just so you know, if ever you decide to come down to my neighbourhood, you are always welcome.
February 24, 2006
Concerning the Holocaust cartoon: Fucking brilliant, man. Great stuff.
25 February 2006
Please pass on to Mr. Kreider my hearitest congratulations for the fine work he's been doing. Also, since it appears that we simultaneously entered the Iranian Holocaust Cartoon Contest with similar entries, and a virtually identical final shot, I'd like to wish him my sporting best wishes. Unlike the vast timid majority of our profession, at least the two of us know when to take up a challenge.
Ken Fisher, intern for Ruben Bolling, "Tom the Dancing Bug"